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Post by danie on May 12, 2010 17:47:52 GMT 2
Hi All
Anyone who are doing calculations about private imports (spare parts), please feel free to report the name of the supplier, part name, price, transport cost, (if available) and exchange rate at date of calculation under this topic.
This information under one topic could make it easy to compare local and international prices in future, just by clicking on this thread.
Just remember that 20% Import Tax + 14 % VAT should be added to the price on all components.
Regards
Danie
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Post by lada & korean parts on May 13, 2010 7:58:32 GMT 2
we also write a dummy invoice for fraction of price so you don't get ripped with those rip off charges.
like tha disc pad set,would write it out for $12.50
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Post by danie on May 13, 2010 17:59:59 GMT 2
Hi Andy Thanks for letting us know.
Regards
Danie
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Post by marius on Nov 21, 2010 18:28:10 GMT 2
Hi all Just as a matter of interest - Lada Parts in Russia have specials on their parts for quite some time now. Remember these parts are on special. ladaparts.ru/shop/index.php
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Post by ronnie on Nov 21, 2010 18:44:27 GMT 2
Hi Marius
It looks like all the water pumps have plastic impellers.
Ronnie
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Post by marius on Nov 21, 2010 18:51:21 GMT 2
Hi Ronnie
Interestingly enough - my original was plastic. The one I have now (also original) is cast iron.
Regards Marius
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Post by hotstuff on Nov 21, 2010 21:00:36 GMT 2
thanks guys
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Post by ronnie on Nov 22, 2010 8:42:33 GMT 2
Hi Marius I think we must resign ourselves to more plastic in our cars. If you look at a modern car the front is all plastic. ( back too). I don`t like it Ronnie
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Post by marius on Nov 22, 2010 8:49:05 GMT 2
Hi Ronnie I don't like it either - even the Sidekick is laced with plastic Regards Marius
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Post by hotstuff on Nov 22, 2010 10:27:09 GMT 2
well it does make the car lighter lol. but as we all know plastic is todays engineering.
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Post by danie on Feb 4, 2011 5:56:42 GMT 2
Hi All
Does anyone know what the cheapest way is to make a money transfer to Russia ?
As far as I know Paypal does not accept money transfers to Russia any longer, which is a real pity.
Maybe we could compare the different bank transfer costs under this post.
Don't even think of trying to make a SWIFT money transfer via Bidwest Bank. Their fees are simply crazy - they quoted me R782.00 to make a transfer of about R2200)
Danie
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Post by marius on Feb 4, 2011 8:03:09 GMT 2
Hi Danie
Real pity about Paypal. The banks are real sharks. I know Capitec Bank is looking at foreign account transfers and their fees should be reasonable - BUT I do not know when this will be a possibility.
Regards Marius
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Post by darryn on Feb 4, 2011 8:14:01 GMT 2
This isn't good news- I wanted to get quite a big consignment from the Korvet guys, but doesn't look like a viable option at the moment. Looks like it's either LADAworld or Ventz.
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Post by danie on Feb 4, 2011 17:48:03 GMT 2
Hi Darryn Do you know how money transfers can be made to Graf Korvet at the moment? Valerij usually send full details of all possibilities how to make money transfers on his quotes. Yesterday - during a private conversation,one of our members mentioned a price on a component which has been quoted by one of these rip off artists recently - absolutely shocking ! No wonder they try to convince everyone to buy original parts only ! Believe me - this time I am not kidding and I am not fooling around - we do need to make sure that all our members know how to import parts as cheap as possible from Russia.If we fail to do this - we are already facing the possibility to loose one of our members for ever... Danie
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Post by Charles on Feb 4, 2011 18:07:00 GMT 2
Danie I agree with you 100%
Charles
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Post by ronnie on Feb 4, 2011 18:56:02 GMT 2
Hi Darryn and Danie,
I have never so far imported myself but I think if you are importing from the likes of the UK you can simply use your credit card.
Ronnie
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Post by danie on Feb 4, 2011 19:27:32 GMT 2
Hi Ronnie
Correct - parts could easily be imported from anywhere in Europe by using a credit card.
The biggest advantage about importing directly from Russia is that many parts which are imported from Europe have actually been manufactured in Russia anyway - so there is no "middleman" involved, and you do not make payment in Euro or GBP.
Living cost (and costs in general) in Europe is quite expensive if compared to the value of our local currency. Members who visited Europe in the past will exactly know what I am talking about.
I would rather try to import directly from Russia, but I prefer not to use a credit card when importing from Russia.
Just a personal choice.
Danie
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Post by marius on Feb 4, 2011 19:36:42 GMT 2
Hi Darryn Do you know how money transfers can be made to Graf Korvet at the moment? Valerij usually send full details of all possibilities how to make money transfers on his quotes. Yesterday - during a private conversation,one of our members mentioned a price on a component which has been quoted by one of these rip off artists recently - absolutely shocking ! No wonder they try to convince everyone to buy original parts only ! Believe me - this time I am not kidding and I am not fooling around - we do need to make sure that all our members know how to import parts as cheap as possible from Russia.If we fail to do this - we are already facing the possibility to loose one of our members for ever... Danie can you please contact me in this regard
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Post by marius on Feb 4, 2011 19:46:40 GMT 2
Hi all
I aggree with Danie on using your credit card - there is a lot of fraud going on over the internet - so be very careful when using your credit card on the Net.
We can also source parts from the old Eastern Block countries like Poland, Bulgaria, The Chech Republic etc. I did get some parts from the UK which were quite reasonably priced at the time.
Parts from the old Western Europe like France, Germany etc can be very expensive but Turkey could be cheaper alternative.
Some African countries like Angola and Moz can also be a source of cheaper parts for us.
Regards Marius
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Post by marius on Feb 4, 2011 21:25:22 GMT 2
Hi all From the info I got from Danie there is no way in hell that asking prices like that could be justifiable. We should all play ball - if not - there will soon be no ball left to play I urge all LOCSA members to put their thinking caps on - I am sure as a collective we can overcome this piracy and import our own for much cheaper. Lets hope something real positive comes from this - it is very much within our grasp to do something about this. Regards Marius
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Post by ronnie on Feb 4, 2011 21:27:22 GMT 2
Hi Marius
I also agree with Danie with regard to using a credit card, but the likes of Lada UK would not be a problem. Their prices are also way below what we pay here.
Ronnie
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Post by ronnie on Feb 4, 2011 21:42:17 GMT 2
Hi All
If your Niva is not your prime vehicle it should not be a problem waiting for a short time to import your parts. If you need your vehicle on a daily basis then it is not so easy to wait. However we should all refrain from making the rip off merchants any richer. If we all make the effort they will either fade away or revise their prices. We have a thread 'service good or bad" we must all make use of this so the members are aware of who to avoid. It is pointless if we simply discuss it and the perpetrators remain nameless.
Ronnie
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Post by marius on Feb 4, 2011 22:01:33 GMT 2
Hi Ronnie
I also found the UK prices quite fair considering the strength of the Sterling.
I would think that in most cases the dealers/dealerships/agents get a fairly large discount from the normal retail price - esp if they order a fair amount. They can also reclaim VAT and most other taxes. I would also think that almost all parts are being shipped by sea rather than air which is again much cheaper.
Taking all of this into consideration there is no way for a dealer in South Africa to justify a price tag of R7000 for a item that retails at under US$200 (R1400) in Russia.
You should be able to import it to SA for less than R3000 and that should include all taxes and a very expensive air fare. If you put it on a ship you will probably pay just over R2000.
Regards Marius
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Post by marje46nuns on Feb 4, 2011 22:30:13 GMT 2
Hi Danie I don’t think the Paypal info you mention applies to Valeriy because on his recent quotation for my Starter the ONLY payment option he has provided is through PAYPAL. In the past he has also listed a whole lot of other payment alternatives such as wire transfers, international money orders, Western Union, etc. but didn’t mention any of these this time ––but I do have all the details on past orders. From what I understand PAYPAL in Russia can be used to send money out but not receive it but this is not something that has only happened recently. Although I am presuming that this doesn’t apply to Valeriy, who I believe can get around this, I did send him an email earlier today asking for clarity and I’ll keep you posted. I also understand that when making a purchase using Paypal it costs the seller more in costs than other options, viz. Western Union. However, if you do use the other payment options Valeriy does offer a 5% discount on your order. When buying from Lada Parts Russia it is also possible to buy with your credit card (which seems a pretty secure set up) and also through Western Union. Although I’ve never used Lada Parts Russia myself I have spoken to a guy in CT in the past who used them regularly and was very happy. I’ve never paid by Western Union either, which has only been available locally through ABSA for just over two years, but it’s also a very safe, popular and simple method of making a payment internationally and you don’t even need an ABSA account. The costs involved are also very reasonable but more expensive than PAYPAL which doesn’t generally cost the purchaser anything. Refer link below for more idea of the various charges and how they work. This link refers to FNB having introduced Paypal recently in SA but my Paypal account was done through the normal Paypal.com website and has nothing to do with FNB. www.mg.co.za/article/2010-05-07-when-it-pays-to-use-paypalThe ridiculously high prices being charged locally for Lada spares forced me to look for alternatives about three years ago and I’ve been buying quite a bit of stuff from Valeriy since. As you know there is nothing difficult or complicated about importing stuff from Russia, which is a painless and simple process, and all Lada owners should be aware that there are alternatives to being ripped off!
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Post by Charles on Feb 4, 2011 23:03:47 GMT 2
Thank you for that. Helps alot!
Charles
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Post by marius on Feb 5, 2011 6:38:39 GMT 2
Thanks Nikki for that vital and usefull info - I am sure that it will inspire our members to seriously consider private imports as a much more viable option.
Though I have not made use of Valeriy before he would seem to be a very good option though he does not necessarily stock original parts (please correct me if I'm wrong).
Regards Marius
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Post by danie on Feb 5, 2011 7:59:12 GMT 2
Hi Nikki Thanks for the info - it sounds like PAYPAL can definately still be used in Valerij's case then. When I was thinking of importing from Russia about 15 - 24 months ago, I definately could not use Paypal to make any payment. The exporter (and I am almost 100% sure it was Valerij) told me that PAYPAL only accept payments from inside Russia - to the outside world, and not vice versa. But maybe I am all wrong and Alzheimers already started kicking in - I don't know.......... Regards Danie P.S. There is no need to use FNB to open a PAYPAL account. I also opened an account on the PAYPAL website a couple of years ago, and it works perfectly.
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Post by danie on Feb 5, 2011 9:49:06 GMT 2
If we all make the effort they will either fade away or revise their prices. It is pointless if we simply discuss it and the perpetrators remain nameless. Ronnie Ronnie, that's my exact way of thinking as well ! We definately do need this suppliers locally, but the time has finally arrived for them to revise their prices seriously. If they are not prepared to do that - they must go, the sooner, the better ! We can even supply some "padkos"............. Danie
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Post by ronnie on Feb 5, 2011 10:28:11 GMT 2
Hi Danie
As long as people use them they will not go away. The solution is in the members hands, we must all hit them in their pocket even if it causes us some inconvenience. At the end of the day we will be the winners.
Ronnie
PS We must all learn to do our own repairs, there are enough of us around to assist each other, especially in areas where the rip off merchant operate. There is always room for the Good Guys.
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Post by danie on Feb 5, 2011 11:08:03 GMT 2
Hi Ronnie To my mind, using PAYPAL is probably the safest, cheapest, and most convenient way of making any payment for any imports on the Internet. (I hope the Paypal Officials read this post and pay me some commission for saying all these kind things about them......... ......just kidding.) I think the first step to "mobilize" our members, is to try and motivate them to start opening Paypal accounts on the Internet. Maybe you or Marius could set up a Poll and raise a question "Do you have a Paypal Account" - or someting like that (just a suggestion). I think a Poll could also motivate owners to do their own imports..... Private imports are a piece of cake - and to my mind opening accounts could be a major step in removing the "mental block" in this regard. Danie
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