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Post by Charles on Sept 17, 2010 13:04:56 GMT 2
Hi Ronnie
Thank you for the advice. I have seen those solar showers. I just dont know how hot they will get in winter time.
Charles
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Post by ronnie on Sept 17, 2010 13:55:35 GMT 2
Hi Charles They don`t get that hot but they sure beat cold water which I don`t like Ronnie
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Post by marius on Sept 17, 2010 16:02:00 GMT 2
The shower is probably one of the most important things you can take on a camping trip
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Post by Charles on Sept 17, 2010 16:14:42 GMT 2
Hi Ronnie
How about a metal box next to the engine where you can put it in to heat up while driving? There is a patrol that I service that has a basket above the engine to heat food and one on the exhaust manifoold where he can cook food.
Charles
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Post by ronnie on Sept 17, 2010 19:25:38 GMT 2
Hi Charles
There is not much space on the exhaust side on the Lada. When I go into the bush I use a fully equipped Landy so I don`t need to go that route.
Ronnie
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Post by danie on Sept 17, 2010 19:58:25 GMT 2
Hi All
At work we also manufacture diesel "Hotboxes" - diesel burners which heats up water for industrial use.
There burners can easily be modified to be used for heating up water when camping in the bush - all you need is a 12 Volt battery......
If all members who join the trip will be prepared to share diesel costs, I am prepared to supply a Hotbox...
Regards
Danie
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Post by Ari Bezuidenhout on Sept 17, 2010 20:46:20 GMT 2
Sounds good to me Ari
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Post by Hercules on Sept 17, 2010 20:51:32 GMT 2
Me too.
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Post by Charles on Sept 17, 2010 21:41:28 GMT 2
Hi all
Danie that sound like a good idea to me. Any chance of a few photos of those hotboxes. Ronnie I know this is a lada forum but will you please post a few pics of the landy. If you dont want to post them here you can email them to me.
Charles
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Post by danie on Sept 17, 2010 22:05:30 GMT 2
Hi Charles This pic shows our standard Hotbox : It can easily be changed to make transport easier........ Regards Danie
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Post by ronnie on Sept 18, 2010 9:14:09 GMT 2
Hi Charles Here is a couple of photo`s of the Landy. I sold it a year ago but still can use it when I want. I built it so we could stay in the bush for long periods. Things you can`t see are twin alternators. with 7 batteries and solar panels to allow long term use of the fridge and freezer. I would love to do this to a Niva but I don`t have the money since I retired, and the Niva is a bit small and cannot carry the load the landy can. Both are outstanding off road vehicles . Ronnie
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Post by ronnie on Sept 18, 2010 9:15:13 GMT 2
Hi Charles
Second photo
Ronnie
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Post by ronnie on Sept 18, 2010 9:27:02 GMT 2
Hi Danie
The hot box looks as if it will take up a lot of your valuable space. The only place where you may use it is on Kubu island as most campsites have donkey boilers which you can light if you want hot water. the problem with Kubu is there are no shower cubicles so you would need to take one. I had one which extended out from the side of the Landy but I did away with it as the wet curtain was a nuisance to pack away. If need be remember I will be carrying about 250 liters of diesel.
Ronnie
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Post by Charles on Sept 18, 2010 11:21:32 GMT 2
Hi Danie
I have a friend in construction who has a hotbox similar to that one. Ronnie the landy must have been fantastic to travel with. About a year ago I seriously wanted a series 3 to turn into a expedition vehicle but have since done away with the idea. For my use a lada is much better. Small yet capable. When I was small I wanted to work for national geographic just becaused I wanted to drive a fully kitted out landy.
Charles
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Post by ronnie on Sept 18, 2010 11:31:43 GMT 2
Hi Charles
I was fortunate we were able to go to the bush as many times as I wanted so to kit out a vehicle was worth it. I paid R120000 for the Landy many years ago but spent more than double that kitting it out and replacing every thing to make it like new. The Niva can be used as an every day vehicle that Landy can`t. We also traveled extensively in the bush in Ari`s Niva and it never missed a beat, and carried a fair load as well. The only 2 things the Niva needs is long range fuel tank and water tank.
Ronnie
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Post by Charles on Sept 18, 2010 11:41:13 GMT 2
Hi Ronnie
I agree a landy is too heavy to use everyday. Even though alot of people do. I still love them. Then 2nd tank in Ari's lada is 62l? That should be more then enough. Did you ever install a water tank into the lada?
Charles
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Post by ronnie on Sept 18, 2010 13:15:36 GMT 2
Hi Charles
I never got around to fitting a water tank, as I realized I would need a much larger vehicle to do what I wanted.
Ronnie
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Post by ronnie on Sept 18, 2010 13:31:17 GMT 2
Hi Ari and Darryn. (Events Organizers)
Here is another route which should prove interesting to all who have not been to the salt pans, Victoria falls, and lake Kariba. It involves more daily moving than what I like, but a lot of people will want to see as much as possible in the available time.The first decent break is at Matusadona National Park. I will leave it to both of you to complete the route. Perhaps try to find a border crossing to allow as to return home via Mozambique (if you want). Just remember home is a long way from Kariba village.
Ronnie
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Post by darryn on Sept 18, 2010 22:00:30 GMT 2
Thanks Ronnie. Kinda forgot that it's up to Ari and I to organize this trip- and now I'm quite afraid! We'll meet with in the next two weeks to plan a more "short term" expedition. Darryn.
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Post by ronnie on Sept 19, 2010 9:07:15 GMT 2
Hi Darryn
It is not my intention to leave it all to you and Ari when I have done these trips so often, but it is right for both of you to have your hand in the trip. Spikes suggested we look at returning through Mozambique, and my knowledge of Moz does not extend beyond Maputo. I am sure there will be a suitable border post in the north or the south of Zim (any except Beit Bridge) which would suit. Just watch as the distance from Kariba village is long and time is limited. Also watch the range the Niva can do without refueling.
Ronnie
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Post by ronnie on Sept 19, 2010 9:25:25 GMT 2
Hi All
I think it is time to start a list of what is required to take on a trip like this. I will work from my memory and any thing I miss can be added.
Lada:-
Fan belt, fuel filter Oil filter, Air filter, 5Lt engine oil, 2L Diff oil, 500Ml brake fluid, Spare lamps (side, tail, head, stop.) Spare fuses of each size. Spare spark plugs, duct tape, cable ties, hose clips, insulation tape, crimp lugs and crimp pliers. Piece of fuel hose, hand cleaner and rags, Workshop manual. 12 volt compressor to inflate tyres after sand driving.PLEASE NOTE THIS IS A MUST HAVE FOR EACH VEHICLE AS MOST OF THESE PUMPS TAKE ABOUT 5 MINUTES TO REINFLATE A TYRE. If YOU ARE SHARING IT WILL TAKE 40 MINUTES JUST TO DO 2 VEHICLES. Puncture repair kit plugs and patches. tyre levers, High lift jack as a standard jack is useless in sand. SPARE SET OF VEHICLE KEYS. Water for Radiator(and drinking). 40 litres additional petrol minimum. Apart from this make sure the vehicle has been serviced ,checked properly, and tested. Please feel free to suggest other items you think are necessary taking into account your experience in running your Niva.
Ronnie
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Post by Ari Bezuidenhout on Sept 19, 2010 9:33:38 GMT 2
Hi
Length of fuel hose
A cpoy of the Workshop manuels, just in case something strange breaks.
Ari
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Post by ronnie on Sept 19, 2010 9:48:19 GMT 2
Hi All
I will keep the lists for the different categories separate to make it easy.
Camping
Tent with sewn in ground sheet and preferably with the door opening at least 200mm above the ground. Sleeping bag or blankets. (it can be cold at night). Pillow. Good torches and spare batteries. Tin of Doom. Cutlery +spares as they tend to go missing in the sand. Plates and mugs, Stainless steel preferred, they neither break or stain. Kettle. pots. basin. bucket. cooking utensils. bread knife. Sharp knives. Cutting board. Gas bottles and spare keys for them. Gas stove for cooking and boiling water. Table and chairs. Dish towels. Hand towels. Tin opener. Gas lighter and matches. Light for use at night.
Again please fell free to add when you think of something.
Ronnie
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Post by Hercules on Sept 19, 2010 10:41:07 GMT 2
Hi Ronnie.
For the Lada some spare feul filters as you do not know the condition of the feul you get there plus some spare plugs aswell. Some tie straps and hose clamps will also be needed plus insulation tape and some crimp on lugs. Don't forget the crimping pliers and multi tester. Also hose repair tape or duct tape, very handy. Hand cleaner and a couple of rags.
Regards.
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Post by danie on Sept 19, 2010 11:02:55 GMT 2
Hi All At least one of us should take a fully equipped Toolbox with.......and obviously a nice Hammer.... Regards Danie
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Post by Charles on Sept 19, 2010 11:21:49 GMT 2
Hi Danie
I will bring my work toolbox. Its has everything one could need. Weighs about 50kg.Including two hammers.
Charles
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Post by ronnie on Sept 19, 2010 13:00:12 GMT 2
Hi Hercules and Ari I will modify the post to include your items and a couple I have thought of. My problem is the Landy is loaded all the time nothing is removed at any time, so you forget when trying to make a list. Ronnie
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Post by ronnie on Sept 19, 2010 13:38:44 GMT 2
Hi All
An easy way to pack a Lada is to buy some Ammunition boxes and label and pack them with your goodies. This makes it much easier to tie them down with ratchet straps in case of a roll over. It is bad enough having a vehicle on its side but it is worse if you have also been hit with a tin or bottle. I used ammunition boxes in Ari`s and they were quite successful.
Ronnie
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Post by spikes on Sept 19, 2010 18:48:09 GMT 2
Hi all Ronnie, Darryn & Ari, Mutare is the best organised border post to exit into Moz from Zimbawe. From there ist is al least another 18hrs driving time to Maputo or Nkomati KZN members can travel south of Maputo and enter Swaziland to exit back into RSA at Golela or if you want to add three more days down to Kosi bay regards Spikes
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Post by darryn on Sept 19, 2010 21:10:37 GMT 2
This is all good stuff, thanks Ronnie. The army surplus store on Mitchell street in PTA has a lot of the items mentioned here, for much cheaper than a camping retail store. I'm looking to put a small fridge in the back of the Lada- or is this overkill?
I think most of the leg work is done here- we'll have to put it all together in the next couple of months. Very exciting!
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