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Post by Ari Bezuidenhout on Oct 5, 2012 10:46:53 GMT 2
Hi guys. I am in the process of installing a Toyota 4y engine into my Lada. (Updates on that as soon as it is finished.) But the problem I am going to have is, I will need to make a spare wheel carrier. I am just afraid that the Sidekick bumper won't be able to take the weight. I will appreciate all your ideas and help. Thanks Riaan Sidekick bumper is fibreglass as far as I know, so no it wont take the load. Ari
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Post by Riaan on Oct 5, 2012 10:48:52 GMT 2
Hi Spikes
Thank you. I have seen dgs's thread. I took a look at my bonnet yesterday and I'm not too sure that mounting the spare wheel on the bonnet would be a good long term solution. The Kia arm looks like the answer. Just would have loved a solution that did not include drilling into the body as I live here right by the sea and am forever in a battle with rust.
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Post by Ari Bezuidenhout on Oct 5, 2012 10:50:24 GMT 2
Roof rack then
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Post by Riaan on Oct 5, 2012 11:43:14 GMT 2
The other solution I am thinking of, is to take off the Sidekick bumper, then attached a steel bar onto the Niva, mount the swingarm onto that, then fit the Sidekick bumper again over the bar.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2012 11:43:41 GMT 2
I also didnt like the idea of drilling into the body, so I fitted a towbar bumper and then made the spare wheel carrier attach to this.
I dont know what this will look like on a sidekick though.
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Post by Riaan on Oct 5, 2012 12:13:22 GMT 2
Conrad, can you maybe please post or send me some pics of your carrier?
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Post by ronnie on Oct 5, 2012 13:17:19 GMT 2
Hi Riaan
I am not sure if mounting a wheel on the bonnet of a Niva is a good idea or not. I had one on the bonnet of the Landy, but that bonnet is quite substantially reinforced. The Niva hinges I think will be strong enough, but the bonnet lock I think will be a problem as it will carry the total weight of the wheel. Once you start off roading there will be heavy stresses on the bonnet.
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Post by Riaan on Oct 5, 2012 13:50:39 GMT 2
Thanks Ronnie
I'm not too keen on the wheel on the bonnet as well. I investigate different swingarm wheel carriers. The bonnet will be absolutely last resort.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2012 17:08:49 GMT 2
Hi Riaan, Its a very simple system. There is one trailer style hinge welded to the tow bar which the swing arm pivots on. Because it doesn't have a second hinge for support, I have welded a metal plate for it to rest on when in the closed position.It then locks with a simple sliding bolt. Its not the most elegant solution as there is a gap between the body and the wheel, which looks a little odd when viewed from the side. It does fulfill my needs though, in that it doesn't make a hole in the bodywork, and it is very easy to remove, as I just have to knock the hinge pin out.
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Post by Charles on Oct 5, 2012 21:01:55 GMT 2
Throw it in the back.
Charles
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Post by Ari Bezuidenhout on Oct 5, 2012 22:02:31 GMT 2
Throw it in the back. Charles That's what I am currently doing. Ari
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Post by Riaan on Oct 9, 2012 13:14:51 GMT 2
I don't just want to throw it in the back, as to make space for it I will have to keep the backseats folded up, or take the back seat out, and I use my backseat. Another solution I am looking at, is fitting the sparewheel to the back hatch, and just replace the gas lifters with serious strong ones.
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Post by Ari Bezuidenhout on Oct 9, 2012 13:40:18 GMT 2
Another solution I am looking at, is fitting the sparewheel to the back hatch, and just replace the gas lifters with serious strong ones. The hinges and gas lift mountings will need to be strengthened a lot Ari
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Post by spikes on Oct 9, 2012 14:54:19 GMT 2
A course of weight lifting may be advisable The lift handle will have to be strenghed as well
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Post by Charles on Oct 9, 2012 18:28:24 GMT 2
, is fitting the sparewheel to the back hatch, and just replace the gas lifters with serious strong ones. You WILL break the hinges!!
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Post by hoodoo on Oct 9, 2012 19:21:08 GMT 2
I had a carrier on the back of my 1.6 in the early days, but ditched it because I didn't like the handling with that weight at the rear. The pendulum effect was most interesting. Then it went on the bonnet, slightly over to the left to preserve the driver's view, mounted on Land Rover circular pads. I didn't have the central bonnet lock (useless things) relying on side catches instead. That worked well enough, but made the vehicle look out of proportion, so it went. I replaced that with an interior mount (I don't use the back seats) which I transferred to my 1.7 when I got that. It's been in use for 11 years in two vehicles, and is going to stay! Only thing I would say, if mounting vertically in the back, put it behind the driver to preserve his field of view. Regards, John
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Post by Charles on Oct 9, 2012 22:02:02 GMT 2
That is the best option in my opinion.
Charles
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Post by Ari Bezuidenhout on Oct 10, 2012 8:19:43 GMT 2
Hi John
The bonnet option sounds interesting, but would only be feasible for the std narrow tyres, I guess?
Ari
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Post by hoodoo on Oct 10, 2012 19:14:43 GMT 2
Hi Ari, At the time I was using 600/16 MT offroad tyres, and 195/15 AT road tyres. I now use 205/16 MT and 215/15 AT, and would not put them on the bonnet. A fair amount of drilling is required, and the alterations are permanent! Besides, it's easier to get the tyre out the back than off the bonnet, and I'm old enough to FEEL the difference! ;D Regards, John
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Post by Ari Bezuidenhout on Oct 11, 2012 9:11:22 GMT 2
LOL
And mine is normally on the roofrack, which is even higher.
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Post by Riaan on Oct 11, 2012 9:25:22 GMT 2
Thank you for all your opinions gents, it seems there will be a fine line between getting a solution that is both practical and one that looks good.
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Post by 90ladaniva on Oct 11, 2012 15:36:06 GMT 2
Hi Guys ,This is my spare wheel carrier .Cheers Trev.
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Post by Charles on Oct 11, 2012 18:21:55 GMT 2
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Post by Charles on Oct 11, 2012 18:22:21 GMT 2
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Post by Riaan on Oct 12, 2012 11:47:37 GMT 2
That is nicely done Charles, just that I need to keep my backseat in.
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