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Post by bobbyd on Mar 2, 2012 12:01:23 GMT 2
Charles if you PM me your email I can email you the plans. Bob Just like vin said a 2.0 HDi peugeot would be the king,I chased this option for a while I got an engine from a C4 but I couldnt get the matching body control module and/or key so I had to give it the flick. Those three components are 100% matched and needed. But its still on the back burner.
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Post by damian on Oct 6, 2012 19:31:10 GMT 2
Hi all, Today I took my Lada for drive. Was awesome! Fuel consumption is admittedly a bit higher than I had expected.. It was about 12.8 or somewhere around there. I would say average speed was about 90-100km/h From what I can understand I should get the CO2 levels in the carb checked/adjusted? anything else that might help fuel consumption? I have read up a bit on weber carbs.. some people say it can really help your fuel consumption and some say it doesn't, any ideas? Out of curiosity is it at all possible to convert to fuel injection? I have no idea how much this might cost or if it is even possible in a Lada. I just figure I should look at all my options. Either that or it is a very stupid question. Much thanks! D
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Post by Charles on Oct 6, 2012 19:34:52 GMT 2
Co and timing. Yes it is possible to convert to fi. IMO not worth it.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2012 19:49:04 GMT 2
Its always good to make sure your timing and co are set correctly, but don't expect any huge improvements. Based on the consumption I get with mine, you are around the average.
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Post by ronnie on Oct 6, 2012 19:55:51 GMT 2
Hi Damien
In my experience there is little if any difference in consumption between the Solex and Weber. It was always 10 to 11 L/100kms.
Ronnie
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Post by Roons on Oct 6, 2012 21:58:36 GMT 2
Injection is possible but the perks are... Very expensive if u cant do it yourself. The fuel pump sucks air if you corner hard with less than half a tank. There are more things that can go wrong that u cant fix on the spot. I can say though its way more responsive slightly better consumption and 0-100 takes just over 17 sec.
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Post by damian on Oct 6, 2012 22:26:53 GMT 2
Thanks to everyone for their responses! Charles, might I ask why you don't think a conversions are worth it? Conrad, thanks a bunch. Ronnie, very good to know.. I wonder why I here of people getting better consumption off of Webers. Roons - Any idea how much it would cost for a conversion if I was to pay a pro/DIY? By slightly better consumption any idea what the difference would be. Do you perhaps know what the fuel injection liter per hundred is? Thanks so much guys! I really appreciate all the help. D
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Post by ronnie on Oct 6, 2012 22:56:31 GMT 2
Hi Damian
the Weber was slightly more economical than the Solex, but the difference was minimal. If you changed to the Weber to save money you would be disappointed. It would take you years to recoup your outlay. If the Solex is worn and needs to be replaced then it may be worth it.
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Post by Ihar on Oct 7, 2012 14:00:08 GMT 2
Damian, if you really want a fuel injected niva, sell your carb one and buy a fuel injected one, you might just save some money doing so as it the costs are about the same
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Post by Roons on Oct 7, 2012 19:02:01 GMT 2
Damian. I got around 9-11 l per 100 km. But i gunned hard. I am shure on the long road at 100 km/h it wil go to 8-8.5. No idea what this setup will cost u but thinking around 10k. The tbi lada can not be compared to multi point injection. I have taken the injection of my niva to fit a tdi engine so i may think of selling it in the future.
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Post by sparky on Oct 7, 2012 19:48:28 GMT 2
was getting 4/5 km/l, fitted a weber 32/36 am now getting 11/12 km/l
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Post by ronnie on Oct 7, 2012 21:55:10 GMT 2
Hi Sparky
I also fitted a Weber 32/36 and consumption was 10 to 11 l/100kms. Always drove at 120.
Ronnie
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Post by Charles on Oct 7, 2012 22:05:52 GMT 2
With the stock solex I get 9.5km/l in mixed driving.
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Post by marius on Oct 8, 2012 8:54:40 GMT 2
Just a friendly reminder to all our newbies - try and post your questions in the relevant thread. This makes life a lot easier for future issues and reference. Baxter has a very useful writeup on the Weber and I fully agree with the consensus there that good fuel consumption is not actually relevant to whether you have a Solex or a Weber fitted. www.ladaniva.co.uk/baxter/resources/WeberSwap.htmI still have the original Solex and my fuel consumption has been fairly good for the last 12 or so years. Just recently I did 360kms and the gauge indicated that I had quite a bit more than a quarter of a tank left before I added another R200's worth to the tank. I have always done better than 10kms/L. At one stage Ronnie indicated 18L / 100kms on a newly installed Weber which only underlines the importance of a finely tuned carb no matter what make it is. Marius
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Post by ronnie on Oct 8, 2012 9:37:23 GMT 2
Hi Marius
When you fit a Weber it is difficult to find out the correct jet sizes. most information is for the 1600 Niva. It took me a while to manage to get the correct jets and have decent consumption. Even though I always drive at 120 I also drive in an economical fashion and this can make a big difference.
Ronnie
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Post by damian on Oct 25, 2012 19:15:51 GMT 2
Hi there,
So I have had my mechanic check the float levels (I think float levels is the right term but then again I could be well wrong) in the carb. As my fuel consumption was pretty dismal. 155km off of over 3/4s of a tank.
He said that he has adjusted it.. but he said that it wasn't taking enough fuel and too much air. Being the noob that I am I assumed that it would be taking too much fuel hence bad fuel economy.
Could the fact that it was taking too much air and not enough fuel still have negative effects on fuel consumption?
If not anything else I can look at?
Thanks,
D
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Post by Charles on Oct 25, 2012 19:33:47 GMT 2
Yes it could. I take it he has set the co on the carb. Also check your ignition timing.
Charles
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Post by damian on Oct 25, 2012 22:48:47 GMT 2
Good to know it might help my fuel consumption. Yes he set the co level. I will get him to check the ignition timing. Thanks C,
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Post by damian on Oct 26, 2012 10:18:17 GMT 2
Hi all, I have been reading more of this thread.. Came across this message: Hi Guys If i listen to you all I must be lucky, went to Bela Bela last week, filled her up went there and came back did about 350km and the tank is between half and quarter. Will fill her up this weekend and see how many liter was used. Glad I have the fuel injection Regards Dewald I bought Dewald's lada so hopefully once I get it back from the mechanic with the Co levels tweaked and the ignition timing, I'll be back up to his fuel consumption which sounds good to me. Cheers, D
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Post by Ari Bezuidenhout on Oct 26, 2012 13:42:13 GMT 2
Must have been a different Dewald, his was FUEL INJECTION, and yours is a CARB.
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Post by damian on Oct 26, 2012 15:49:53 GMT 2
Ah ok.. Thought it was him.. Same name and he also lives in Fishoek.
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Post by damian on Oct 26, 2012 15:50:41 GMT 2
lol I didn't even see that he said that it was fuel injection, foolish me.
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Post by damian on Nov 4, 2012 1:00:25 GMT 2
Hi all,
Unfortunately I don't think the service that I just had done helped the petrol consumption at all.
It might be a bit early to say but I have done 76km and am down to half a tank. This could be because it is just a very inaccurate reading but I doubt it is that inaccurate. :/
Cheers,
D
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Post by Charles on Nov 4, 2012 12:18:11 GMT 2
Was the timing and co set on the service?
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Post by damian on Nov 4, 2012 13:08:12 GMT 2
I will double check tomorrow morning.. But he did say that those were set. I stressed that those were the things that I needed done, so I am certain they were.
He said that it was running on too little fuel and too much air and had corrected it.
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Post by damian on Nov 5, 2012 21:27:42 GMT 2
Hi all,
So the timing and the CO was set.. Any thoughts as to what else I should check that could be messing with my fuel consumption so much?
Thanks,
D
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Post by damian on Nov 5, 2012 21:31:32 GMT 2
I am desperate really.. Any ideas would be amazing.
Thanks again,
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Post by Charles on Nov 5, 2012 21:58:46 GMT 2
What colour does the plugs burn?
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Post by damian on Nov 5, 2012 23:05:55 GMT 2
To be perfectly honest I have no idea what that means. I do apologize for my noobness.
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Post by Charles on Nov 5, 2012 23:10:41 GMT 2
If possible remove the plugs and check the colour on them. This must be done after the car has been driven for a while with the choke off. If you pull them just after the choke has been on then if will give you a inaccurate reading.
At how many deg did he set the timing?
Did he maybe do a compression test?
Charles
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