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Post by Charles on Oct 31, 2010 23:10:32 GMT 2
Hi Ronnie
My mistake, 80inch. Only the series 2 was 88inch, right?
Charles
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Post by marius on Nov 1, 2010 7:26:29 GMT 2
Hi Ronnie
Interestingly the people who bought our house are also Scotish and they are avid Landy lovers. The have two short Series One Firebrigade Landys (one still with all the ladders etc) and a new 90.
At least there is something the Scotsh like about the Brits ;D
Regards Marius
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Post by ronnie on Nov 1, 2010 9:13:46 GMT 2
Hi Marius ;D ;D ;D ;D Ronnie
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Post by ronnie on Nov 1, 2010 9:22:54 GMT 2
Hi Charles
Series 1 changed to 86 inch in 1954. Series 2 started in 1958.
Ronnie
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Post by ronnie on Nov 1, 2010 9:25:11 GMT 2
Hi Darryn Yes born and bred. Been here since 1974. Ronnie
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Post by butasteve on Feb 11, 2011 10:58:27 GMT 2
Good Day All Tried the Lada yesterday on a small dirt track - short trip. The problem with the disc is not completely resolved. Swopped the bearings around - made a difference, but occasionally it still touches the carrier as if the CV shaft is out of line. Will remove the disc Saturday morning and have it skimmed at Ferrobrake. It also seems as if there's a problem with the clutch or something. Cannot explain it exactly - could be to much play on the clutch or between front/rear diff and/or gearbox. I hope to visit a guy closer to us - about 10km from home to test his Lada's working to get a comparison. The difflock was also very difficult to unlock after it was locked for about 100m on a rocky slope. L/R was also used. Managed to unlock after a few attempts. The L/R H/R works perfect. Regards Stephen
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Post by spikes on Feb 11, 2011 11:09:21 GMT 2
Hi Stephen Good news! To unlock the central diff, stop and try pushing the lever forward, if no luck reverse about 2m and try again. The diff lock has to be used regularly otherwise it gets very stiff regards Spikes
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Post by marius on Feb 11, 2011 15:36:04 GMT 2
Hi Stephen
Sorry Spikes it is me again ;D ;D ;D
Unlike the low and high range that should only be engaged when the vehicle is stationary - the diff lock can only be engaged/disengaged when the car is moving and only at relatively low speed.
Regards Marius
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Post by marius on Feb 11, 2011 15:39:38 GMT 2
I can also recommend that you use the lock sparingly - only when you know there is a chance that the wheel's going to slip. Particulary in heavy mud, snow and thick sand.
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Post by butasteve on Feb 11, 2011 16:00:26 GMT 2
Spikes / Marius Thanks for the info. I was only testing to see whether the Diff lock does indeed work.
When we did the Be a Blessing trip with a bunch of kids we were advised to use D/L & L/R on our Hilux bakkies. We not been on many 4 X 4 Outings, hence I usually do as advised by the group leader.
Should I use D/L on rocky / gravel roads or not. I'll join a group on a 4 X 4 outing when our Lada is ready.
Regards Stephen
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Post by marius on Feb 11, 2011 16:09:57 GMT 2
Hi Stephen
I would be inclined to say no. Don't listen to people who drive bakkies - they don't have a centre diff lock ( they can only dream ;D)
It obviously depends on the terrain - say you have a huge uphill (or down) in front of you and the surface is loose gravel I would say Yes.
The same goes for a rocky place - you can probably negotiate it comfortably without the lock but as soon as you detect wheelslip you should use it. If you know you are going to lift a wheel free from the ground - engage.
It is however not a good idea to engage the lock whilst the wheels are slipping. Go back a meter or two then engage whilst you are driving.
Regards Marius
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Post by Ari Bezuidenhout on Feb 11, 2011 16:14:39 GMT 2
Hi Stephen
I use the DL everytime that I drive gravel roads, as it gives better grip and makes the vehicle safer. When engaged you will feel the steering tighten a bit.
Ari
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Post by Charles on Feb 11, 2011 17:44:50 GMT 2
Marius I would not engage it while the vehicle is driving, even less while the wheels are spinning. That is one the fastest ways to rip the side gears to pieces. I have seen in in a diff. not a pretty picture.
Charles
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Post by marius on Feb 11, 2011 18:49:33 GMT 2
Hi Charles You guys must be sick of me giving lectures all the time Anyway your mechanical/technical skills are definately streets ahead of mine but you must consider the following info >> It is important to know that the centre diff lock does not lock the actual axle diffs. If you use the centre diff lock incorrectly you can cause serious damage to the transmision. Engaging it on firm surfaces can cause transmission wind-up and rapid wear of the gears. If not engaged on loose/slippery surfaces the diff can overheat and fail. The centre diff does everything three or four times faster than the road wheels so it is vital that you use it correctly. The Niva's TC is rock solid - if used correctly. The Operational Manual indicates the following: "select low gear in the transfer case after your vehicle has come to a complete standstill" Now I know some of the more experienced people double clutch it into low range but I would not recommend it. The manual goes further - and I am going to swop the paragraphs around to make more sense of it: "Changing into the higher gears and differential lock-up can be done during driving." Even further back: "Release the clutch before changing gears or locking the differential." And finally ;D "If the differential is difficult to unlock whilst driving, stop the vehicle to do it." Hope that makes sense? Anyway there are different types of diffs and lockers and it is important to know that they don't all work the same way. Regards Marius
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Post by marius on Feb 11, 2011 18:51:00 GMT 2
It is vital not to engage the lock whilst the wheels are spinning - it can cause serious damage like Charles said.
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Post by Charles on Feb 11, 2011 19:01:34 GMT 2
Hi Marius
Thank you. That makes sence. Now that I think about it the front and rear propshafts will be turing at close to the same speed so it should be fine.
With that double clutch way of going into low range, the way the idiots do it, tou should see how nicely one can over rev a engine. Rebuild a fire trucks engine last year because of that.
Charles
P.s I think we should move this descussion to the tech section. Dont want to get in trouble for hijacking threads, again.
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Post by ronnie on Feb 11, 2011 19:05:51 GMT 2
Hi Marius
In fact the diff will not lock if a wheel is spinning. Also if it will not disengage you can be sure it is wound up. I think you have already mentioned, if it will not disengage reverse and it should then disengage easily. Spikes is old enough ;D to know how to double declutch on the move. The short lever also makes it more difficult to change hi/low on the move. As far as when to engage diff lock, if the surface is loose engage as the diff will then have no work to do.
Ronnie
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Post by spikes on Feb 11, 2011 19:18:24 GMT 2
Hi all Me again Marius to quote our mutual friend and learned Chairman ""And finally "If the differential is difficult to unlock whilst driving, stop the vehicle to do it." "" that is exactly what I referred to... the part about reversing comes from my LR Discovery days'. And yes Ronnie the 108 that I learned on had no synchromesh Regards all Spikes
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Post by marius on Feb 11, 2011 19:52:39 GMT 2
Thanks guys for helping me out of trouble here ;D ;D ;D
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Post by spikes on Feb 11, 2011 20:25:22 GMT 2
Hi Stephen I frequently use the diff lock on the NIVA(only on gravel, in mud and ALL unpaved water crossings{Marius to note please:) }). I also use it when descending steep inclines in low range. As Ari said, it makes the vehicle safer through better control of traction. About the brakes... suggest you investigate further before skimming. Regards Spikes
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Post by marius on Feb 21, 2011 7:49:53 GMT 2
Hi all I finally got my scanner up and running again! When we bought the Niva in 2000 Car Magazine published a guide to off-roading which I found quite useful. The idea was to write it to PDF but it would be too large an attachment so I decided to post low resolution grayscale pics for those interested (33 pages). There was even a Lada add in the guide - sad to see that all those dealerships disappeared from the scene For those who might find it usefull - enjoy Regards Marius
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Post by marius on Feb 21, 2011 7:50:43 GMT 2
Tips on 4x4 driving and adventure offroading First up...the cover.
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Post by marius on Feb 21, 2011 7:53:20 GMT 2
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Post by marius on Feb 21, 2011 7:53:47 GMT 2
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Post by marius on Feb 21, 2011 8:05:35 GMT 2
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Post by marius on Feb 21, 2011 8:14:13 GMT 2
Hi all Apologies for this lengthy post. I trust that someone will find the info useful and interesting. Drive safely and responsibly Regards Marius
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Post by Charles on Feb 21, 2011 10:33:10 GMT 2
Thank You Marius
Even though I have been on 4x4 course I am still a complete novice. So it will help me alot.
Charles
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Post by marius on Feb 21, 2011 11:50:22 GMT 2
Pleasure Charles
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Post by spikes on Feb 24, 2011 20:19:21 GMT 2
Thanks for the reprint, Marius. There is an interesting piece on roof racks in the March 2011 Leisure Wheels (Francois' Diary p96). Even mention of a Lada that came overland down Africa. Roof got buggered by the overloaded roof rack. Regards all Spikes
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Post by spikes on May 30, 2013 14:25:12 GMT 2
The reprint from CAR magazine has been re-"linked" and can be viewed above
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