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Post by marius on Jun 21, 2011 20:14:07 GMT 2
I did not know that Spikes - but it is good to know I can fill up with a much better petrol.
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Post by vincentc on Jun 22, 2011 8:04:51 GMT 2
Starngely enough I find i get more km's with Total or Caltex rather than Sasol or Shell. Engen is average and BP I dont use too often. I do notice a very strong fuel smell when using Shell or Sasol. I generally use a tank a day on a slow day
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Post by vincentc on Jun 22, 2011 8:05:33 GMT 2
My consumption is similar to Hercules
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Post by marius on Jun 22, 2011 10:19:27 GMT 2
I have a hunch that all petrol are pretty much the same standard/blend in SA - it only depends on the octane. I am speaking under correction here but I think most fuel companies are legally bound to use a % of Sasol. I am not sure about Sasol's position though but it is probably 100% Sasol?
The notorious Caltex refinery in Cape Town is most definitely not shipping fuel in "Caltex only" branded trucks.
Marius
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Post by ronnie on Jun 22, 2011 10:49:46 GMT 2
Hi Marius
You are correct in what you say. All brands have the same % of Sasol in them. Not sure about Sasol though, and there are not Sasol petrol stations all over, certainly not here any way. Putting in a higher octane than you need does not always make any difference to your vehicle and is designed for high compression motors (or was ?)
Ronnie
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Post by ronnie on Jun 22, 2011 11:35:14 GMT 2
Hi Spikes
Single point fuel injection is supposed to use 95 petrol
Ronnie
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Post by Charles on Jun 22, 2011 13:04:30 GMT 2
Best would be to use the highest octane you can get.
Charles
P.s that doesn't mean you should run it on afgas!
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Post by Ari Bezuidenhout on Jun 22, 2011 13:11:32 GMT 2
And why not, think of your performance then and economy ;D
Ari
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Post by Charles on Jun 22, 2011 13:29:57 GMT 2
And the holes in the pistons. Rermember afgas is a mix. Can be anything from 102 up to 126.
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Post by spikes on Jun 22, 2011 19:13:47 GMT 2
Hi Spikes Single point fuel injection is supposed to use 95 petrol Ronnie The choice was between metal added fuel or 93 unleaded. Dullstroom does not have 95UL So 93 UL it was. Spikes
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Post by vincentc on Jun 22, 2011 20:49:00 GMT 2
I have a hunch that all petrol are pretty much the same standard/blend in SA - it only depends on the octane. I am speaking under correction here but I think most fuel companies are legally bound to use a % of Sasol. I am not sure about Sasol's position though but it is probably 100% Sasol? The notorious Caltex refinery in Cape Town is most definitely not shipping fuel in "Caltex only" branded trucks. Marius It was previously that all fuels on the reef was supplied by Sasol. With the Multi Product pipe line this is no longer true and there is no legislated % of sasol that a company should use. Remember too that we still import mega tons of crude to sustain our fuel and lube needs. Down here at the coast we tend to get un-Sassoled fuels.
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Post by marius on Jun 22, 2011 21:40:27 GMT 2
Hi Vincent My brother is heavily involved with that particular pipeline but at the moment he has some serious health issues. His condition is improving though I am very much aware that we rely heavily on crude import - esp now that the Government has squandered our fuel reserves I do fill up with Sasol from time to time - esp now that I know they have 95 available. Anyway just out of interest - but I am sure our members are aware that the carb Nivas can use UL and LRP fuels. Marius
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Post by marius on Jun 23, 2011 8:37:25 GMT 2
Perhaps not the right thread for this info - but this is what Sasol's relation is or was with regard to the fuel marketing companies in South Africa.
Under the Sasol Supply agreement, the fuel marketing companies agree to uplift most of Sasol's synfuels and Natref production in proportion to market share. In exchange, Sasol has agreed not to enter the fuels marketing arena.
The Sasol "Blue Pump" agreement of 1982 allows Sasol to install Sasol brand pumps (petrol only) in the service stations of the marketing companies which fall within the area of South Africa supplied by Sasol and Natref.
Sasol is forbidden to install further service stations over and above the 19 it already owns and the marketing companies undertake to lift product from the Sasol synfuels plants and Natref in proportion to their market share.
Marius
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Post by spikes on Jun 23, 2011 19:26:09 GMT 2
Perhaps not the right thread for this info - but this is what Sasol's relation is or was with regard to the fuel marketing companies in South Africa. Under the Sasol Supply agreement, the fuel marketing companies agree to uplift most of Sasol's synfuels and Natref production in proportion to market share. In exchange, Sasol has agreed not to enter the fuels marketing arena. The Sasol "Blue Pump" agreement of 1982 allows Sasol to install Sasol brand pumps (petrol only) in the service stations of the marketing companies which fall within the area of South Africa supplied by Sasol and Natref. Sasol is forbidden to install further service stations over and above the 19 it already owns and the marketing companies undertake to lift product from the Sasol synfuels plants and Natref in proportion to their market share. Marius Hi Marius, Good to hear your boet is improving! I have a feeling that there are more than 19 Sasol service stations. 2x in Nelspruit at least 2 in Tzaneen and there is a rumour going round that the new VIVA(I think it is called ) on the N4 is also owned by Sasol Did not see any NIVAs today, but there is an interesting 504 station wagon near "The Oaks" that has a serious suspension lift It may just be one of the 4X4 units tha PSA imported in the late 70's Spikes
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Post by denis on Jun 28, 2011 22:02:48 GMT 2
Hi there, Regarding fuel consumption! This is one of the downsides to our amazing LADAs, Has anyone successfuly fitted a fuel efficient diesel engine to their LADA? I have been thinking about fitting a "2c Toyota diesel". I have fitted this engine to my wife's Toyota Venture, and am quite happy with the peformance and fuel consumption. Has anyone done this transplant? And where could I get a bell housing to match? Otherwise run the LADA on Parafin! He He! Denis
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Post by vincentc on Jun 28, 2011 22:12:49 GMT 2
Hi Denis
I REALLY want to put the Peugeot 2.0 HDi engine in my Lada. It involves quite a bit of modification to the engine mounts etc. You may have to get an adapter plate machined to suit.
Regards Vincent
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Post by Hanno Oostenbrink on Nov 5, 2011 13:14:44 GMT 2
Hi guys
My fuel economy is at about 7.9 km/l which seems a bit too low to me. I have checked on the web and seen that other guys get about 10-12 km/l.
What could be the cause of my bad fuel economy?
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Post by excreamer on Nov 5, 2011 13:49:56 GMT 2
Could be a majority of things old filters, worn carby or injectors motor could be getting old etc etc
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Post by Charles on Nov 5, 2011 13:55:19 GMT 2
When last was your co set? It must be set correctly at 1 to 1.5. This morning I found a vacuum leak on mine. So I have to set my co again. Will take it to work on monday to do. With the vacuum leak on mine it will cause it to be set way too high. Also check that your carb is nice and clean and also not leaking in the v enturi.
Charles
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Post by ronnie on Nov 5, 2011 15:06:37 GMT 2
Hi Hanno
You are running at 12.9 l / 100kms. I don`t think this is impossible if you do lots of short runs, or drive fast.
Ronnie
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Post by danie on Nov 5, 2011 16:51:21 GMT 2
Hi Hanno
Is your Lada's engine running with a proper Thermostat ? Quite a few Ladas out there are running with a (locally) modified thermostat, which is not a thermostat.
If an engine runs without a thermostat, or the thermostat is faulty (stuck open) the engine will not reach the ideal operating temperature, and the fuel mixture will be too rich.
More possibilities are:
1. Incorrect Ignition Timing. 2. Faulty Distributor (remove dirt from Distributor Cap and Rotor, and check for wear) 3. Faulty / incorrect Spark Plugs, or faulty Spark Plug wires. (Make sure that you are using the correct Spark Plugs) 4. Clogged Air Filter. 5. Incorrect wheel alignment (check tyres for abnormal wear) 6. Sticking brake Calipers or Hand Brake. 7. Worn Timing Chain and / or Timing Chain gears. 8. Incorrect Valve clearances. 9. Worn engine (poor compression - needs to be checked with a Compression Tester)
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Post by spikes on Nov 5, 2011 17:02:20 GMT 2
Hi Hanno To get the NIVA down to 10-12km/l you need to drive with a very light right foot(given that the rest of the issues discussed above are in order) When accelerating do not exceed 3500rpm and keep the revs in the band between 2500rpm to 3000rpm when cruising. Use the gear box to stay in the power band Spikes
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Post by Hercules on Nov 7, 2011 20:15:54 GMT 2
Hi Hanno.
Do not feel alone, my Lada is giving a similar fuel consumption than your Lada.
Regards.
Hercules
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Post by ronnie on Nov 7, 2011 20:25:29 GMT 2
Hi Hercules
Depending on the road conditions, IE heavy traffic etc that is not an impossible consumption
Ronnie
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Post by Hercules on Nov 7, 2011 20:37:21 GMT 2
Hi Ronnie.
The traffic here is just killing us, 1-1.5 hours to do 24km's.
Regards.
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Post by butasteve on Nov 8, 2011 8:17:59 GMT 2
Dear All Good morning
Will somebody with a 5Speed GB in 5th Gear please post their respective Speedo Reading with the RPM for 60Km/H 100Km/H 120Km/H
This will give a good indication whether it's a 5 Speed GB with a shot 5th Gear of if it's a 4 Speed Replacement in a Lada Niva.
Kind regards Steve
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Post by ladanivabelgium on Nov 8, 2011 8:38:20 GMT 2
This will be not relavant information. There are two different kinds of gear ratios in the diffs (1600 5GB = 10/41 and 1700= 11/43) + there are different sizes tyres, from 175/80/16 to 215/80/16. I for one use 41/10 diffs in my Niva diesel on 215/80/16 tyres, wich is pretty close to the stock ratio
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Post by marius on Nov 8, 2011 13:01:35 GMT 2
For what it is worth Steve - from the top of my head: 100km/h just under 3000RPM 120 km/h just over 3000RPM 60km/h I have no clue but I only change into 5th gear when I do 80km/h. Anything under that back into 4th gear.
Marius
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Post by butasteve on Nov 8, 2011 15:55:33 GMT 2
Marius & LadaNivaBelgium Good day Gents
Thanks, just got back from our Regional Office in Century City, Cape Town. Also saw the comment from LadaNivaBelgium - never thought it to be so technical. Lear each and every day. We've got the 1700 Carb Lada Niva with Standard Niva Mags shot with 195/80/15 Rubbers. We've got only a 4Speed GB. Planning to open it during the December leave and check whether it's a 5Speed with a shot 5th Gear or a 4Speed Replacement.
Our niva runs 2000RPM @6 0 Km/H I think it's about 3000RPM @ 100KM/H; and About 4000RPM @ 120 Km/H which I seldom do. Refs too high in my opinion.
Marius, please post me the RPM @ 60Km/H in 4th Gear whenever you've got a minute.
Kind regards Stephen
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Post by marius on Nov 8, 2011 16:31:05 GMT 2
Hi Stephen
4000RPM's is to high. You can have a look in Sparky's thread what the 5th speed gear looks like when you remove the gear leaver.
Marius
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