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Post by Hercules on Nov 3, 2009 11:00:38 GMT 2
Just some info on the 36DCD Weber carbs.
The 36DCD is the most versatile and economical carb available with the largest range of components and settings available. You can fit and set the 36DCD from a Mini to a V8 Ford or Chevy. During the 70's I was involved with my father fitting 2.5lt & 4.1lt Chevy motors in series 2 & 3 Land Rovers. All the motors were fitted with 36DCD carbs for economical reasons. It was commonly experience that these carbs had a flooding or stalling problems in steep inclines or declines. We did a mod on the adapter piece by turning the carb 90 degrees with the float chamber facing away from the engine. During the 80's & 90's I work in the military vehicle sector building armoured infantry vehicles for the SANDF. The Eland vehicle, equipped with a Chev 2.5lt motor and 36DCD carb, experience the same problem and this mod was introduced and the problem were solved. Hope these info will help people experience the same problem on their vehicles.
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Post by Ari Bezuidenhout on Nov 3, 2009 13:44:26 GMT 2
I found this after a long search Ari Attachments:
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Post by Ari Bezuidenhout on Nov 3, 2009 13:47:41 GMT 2
Can't figure out how to put more than 1 attachment in a post?? Ari Attachments:
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Post by Ari Bezuidenhout on Nov 3, 2009 13:55:43 GMT 2
This is an amalgamation of info I gleaned off the web for the past 2 years on how to get a weber 36/36DCD setup Hope it can help others Ari Attachments:
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Post by danie on Nov 3, 2009 19:00:16 GMT 2
Thanks for your comments regarding Weber 36DCD carbs Hercules - interesting to know that the 90 deg mods have solved problems in armoured infantery vehicles as well.
As far as I know, the 90 deg carb mod has never been mentioned on any Lada Forum, across the globe .
It is very obvious that any owner who might battle with Weber carb problems, should rather contact you........
Regards
Danie
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Post by Hercules on Nov 4, 2009 9:15:49 GMT 2
Ari, thanks for the info regarding the carb, but have difficulties to download the attachments - keep on saying download invalid.
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Post by Hercules on Nov 4, 2009 9:31:03 GMT 2
Thanks Danie.
I had a look at the original Russian made Solex carb float position that is fitted on the Lada, and notice that the Russians change the position of the float chamber by rotating it 90 degrees. The normal Solex carbs as use by VW and other Car Makes is situated in the same position / direction as the Weber. It is quite clever of the people in the East. The only problem with the Solex, it is not a performance carb, but will give you a reasonable good consumption. The other problem is that you can not play with the Russian Solex to gain more performance as most of the settings is preset.
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Post by Ari Bezuidenhout on Nov 4, 2009 15:23:02 GMT 2
Thanks for the feedback Hercules, I tried to download it now(15:22) and it worked.
Danie I'd still like that carb as turning the weber 90 degrees is above my capabilities. I have block days next week tuesday and wednesday and could then get to edenvale
Thanks Ari
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Post by Hercules on Nov 4, 2009 17:58:52 GMT 2
Thanks Ari, I can download now - just had to reset my anti vires which blocked the downloads.
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Post by danie on Nov 4, 2009 18:46:23 GMT 2
Just some useless information about my own Weber experience:
I installed a Weber (manufactured in Spain) carb on an Audi 80 GLS a couple of years ago - not sure if it was a 32 or 36DCD. At that stage I found myself on the platteland (Free State) and I ordered the carb from a distributor in Johannesburg.
I battled for months to get the car going, because the carb simply did not work properly. Eventually I took the car to a Weber distributor in Bloemfontein.
To cut a long story short, the guys in Bloemfontein battled for almost a full working day to find out what the actual problem was. They dismantled the carb completely, and compared every component with an old, but similar Weber which was lying around. They finally discovered that a brass insert had been pressed too deep inside the aluminium housing during the manufacturing process in Spain, and it was not possible to get it in the correct position. So they offered me a deal:
I did not buy the carb from them, but they spend a lot of time on labour, trying to solve my problem. They then offered me the old Weber (still in very good condition) in exhange for my shiny new one - they would still be able to claim a replacement carb from the main importers.
I really needed the car at that stage, so I exepted the deal. The old Weber never gave me any problem for many years..........
Danie
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Post by danie on Nov 4, 2009 18:58:18 GMT 2
Ari, we send equipment to Edenvale almost every day, and I am quite sure that I will be able to send the carb with some other stuff tomorrow. If so, the carb will be at our branch in Edenvale at about 1.00 pm. on Friday
I will let you know tomorrow evening, and will PM our branch adres details as well.
Regards
Danie
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Post by Hercules on Nov 4, 2009 19:09:15 GMT 2
Danie, the Weber carb is a very reliable no nonsense carb once sorted out and set correctly. They did worn out over years of operating the same as any other make of carb, but the difference is that the worn parts can be replaced and is freely available at spare shops and carb centers. They are also fairly cheaper to repair then other makes of carbs, eg. Solex, Nikki, Rochester, Carter, Dollerto, ex.
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Post by Ari Bezuidenhout on Nov 4, 2009 19:59:11 GMT 2
Thanks Danie I appreciate it
Glad you can now access the info Hercules
Ari
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Post by hotstuff on Nov 4, 2009 23:57:07 GMT 2
well good to see this post. I have fitted the 38dgas carb on and just tinkering with tuning now- nice power, will see about consumption. any one else used a 38 DGAS let me know about it
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Post by Ari Bezuidenhout on Nov 6, 2009 18:46:04 GMT 2
Thanks Danie my father picked the carb up this afternoon
Ari
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Post by danie on Nov 6, 2009 19:39:30 GMT 2
Good luck Ari - hope you manage to sort things out.
Regards
Danie
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Post by Hercules on Nov 11, 2009 20:37:52 GMT 2
Mike, if it is possible, can you tell us more about the 38DGAS that you fitted on your vehicle. How is the performance, how is the feul consumption and the jetting and settings.
The only 38DGAS I know is the one fitted on the v6 Ford which both barrels open the same time.
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Post by hotstuff on Nov 11, 2009 22:44:13 GMT 2
will do i will get all the settings out ..but it goes like a dream and has good grunt up the slopes bit thirsty when pushed to floor but cruzzes like a dream.
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Post by Hercules on Nov 12, 2009 20:13:51 GMT 2
Thanks Mike, and will hear from you.
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Post by ronnie on Nov 18, 2009 17:13:32 GMT 2
here`s a quick way to make your webber carb lighter and more controlable.All you need is a hinge, piece of flat bar,small wheel,(small old bearing) nut and bolt to suit hole in bearing .
Regards Ronnie
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Post by ronnie on Nov 18, 2009 17:16:59 GMT 2
Another photo
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Post by Hercules on Nov 18, 2009 20:24:22 GMT 2
Ronnie, thanks for the info. I think it will help a lot for those who have weber carbs fitted.
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Post by Ari Bezuidenhout on Nov 18, 2009 21:21:52 GMT 2
I have that mod already in my lada thanks probaly to Ronnie. I wondered why my accelorater pedal was different to other lada's. There are no problems with my mod and its probaly 10 years old already.
Ari
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Post by hotstuff on Nov 18, 2009 22:40:39 GMT 2
HMMM looks niffty maybe convert a vw golf flappy pedal
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Post by ronnie on Nov 19, 2009 18:19:20 GMT 2
HI Ari, yes your`s was done many years ago. That pedal came off a 3.8 mark 2 Jaguar.It works well and is very smooth. Regards Ronnie
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Post by Warren G on Sept 28, 2010 22:50:24 GMT 2
Hi. I'm new to this forum. Was wondering if anyone knows of someone selling a Weber 36DCD Carb? Thanks. Warren
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Post by Hein on Sept 29, 2010 16:38:19 GMT 2
Hi Warren
I might have a 36DCD at home. Will check what condition it is in and let you know.
Hein
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Post by Warren G on Sept 30, 2010 10:23:18 GMT 2
Hi Hein.
Thanks very much. I would really appreciate it a lot.
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Post by Hein on Oct 1, 2010 23:18:46 GMT 2
Hi Warren Here is the carb. It has not been used for a few years but all mechanisms still work fine. I think it will need a service kit and a few screws that is missing. The Throttle cable mechanism is also missing, you can see this on the picture. All the crucial parts are still there. I also do not know what the jet sizes are. Let me know what you think. If you interested just make me an offer. Regards Hein Attachments:
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Post by Warren G on Oct 3, 2010 21:10:14 GMT 2
Hi Hein
Sorry I took so long to get back to you. I have been looking on gumtree and there running ones going for R800 in running order. I don't know how much the service kits for the carbs are. I'll have to see as well if I can get the things missing as well. But, I was thinking if are willing to let it go for R250 or R300 it might be worthwhile me buying it from you.
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