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Post by marius on Feb 2, 2012 8:55:54 GMT 2
Hi all
With the departure of Ronnie to “greener pastures” at the end of this month two LOCSA portfolios has become vacant. We need someone that can fill either or at least one of these portfolios as Moderator and Vice-Chairperson. Please note that as Moderator you will need to log on at a regular basis to perform the required admin duties. In line with democratic principles I propose that any member that has logged onto the forum can either nominate or second a candidate for either or both these positions. Nominations will start on 3 February 2012 and will close on Friday 17 February 2012. If by consensus this closing date can be forwarded.
The member(s) who has received the most nominations (seconded) will automatically qualify as the most suitable candidate for a particular portfolio. If there is no clear majority it will go down to a vote if necessary.
Please make sure that the person(s) you nominate is willing and able.
Regards Marius
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Post by danie on Feb 2, 2012 17:53:13 GMT 2
Hi Marius
I would like to nominate two very capable candidates, although I have not contacted them in this regard before.
I hope you will accept this nominations, and I hope the nominees will seriously consider their nomination.
In alphabetical order :
- Nikki Lada
- Spikes
Regards
Danie
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Post by marius on Feb 2, 2012 18:24:53 GMT 2
Hi Danie
No problem but I will only except from tomorrow ;D
Check my PM please.
Marius
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Post by danie on Feb 2, 2012 18:44:54 GMT 2
Hi Marius Sorry, I have missed the date . Danie
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Post by danie on Feb 3, 2012 5:52:13 GMT 2
Hi Danie No problem but I will only except from tomorrow ;D Marius Hi Marius Today is the 3rd, so I wish to submit my nominations again. Both nominees will do us proud, so I hope they will accept their nominations Danie
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Post by ladanivabelgium on Feb 4, 2012 8:52:25 GMT 2
maybe a stupid question, but is there any reason why Ronnie can't perform this tasks any more?
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Post by RATEL on Feb 4, 2012 10:34:01 GMT 2
I would like to nominate Charles for this position, I have noticed in my time with Locsa that although he is young, he has a vibrant attitude when it comes to LadaNiva, exactly what I believe we need. A young vibrant person who can bring new ideas to grow this group and continue the popularity of LadaNiva in South Africa. His technical knowledge adds to the value of having him part of this group. Should I also mention the amount of valuable posts he has made in his short time with locsa. Clearly it points to his passion for our little RussianRangeRovers. . . .
I trust that he will have the time to attend to Locsa as Vice Chairperson as objective and professionally as possible. Proof is readily available, just look back at all his posts. . . . All 2900 of them.
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Post by ladanivabelgium on Feb 4, 2012 11:13:14 GMT 2
I would like to nominate Charles for this position, I have noticed in my time with Locsa that although he is young, he has a vibrant attitude when it comes to LadaNiva, exactly what I believe we need. A young vibrant person who can bring new ideas to grow this group and continue the popularity of LadaNiva in South Africa. His technical knowledge adds to the value of having him part of this group. Should I also mention the amount of valuable posts he has made in his short time with locsa. Clearly it points to his passion for our little RussianRangeRovers. . . . I trust that he will have the time to attend to Locsa as Vice Chairperson/Moderator as objective and professionally as possible. Proof is readily available, just look back at all his posts. . . . All 2900 of them. i second that
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Post by maddy on Feb 4, 2012 11:57:10 GMT 2
I would like to nominate Charles for this position, I have noticed in my time with Locsa that although he is young, he has a vibrant attitude when it comes to LadaNiva, exactly what I believe we need. A young vibrant person who can bring new ideas to grow this group and continue the popularity of LadaNiva in South Africa. His technical knowledge adds to the value of having him part of this group. Should I also mention the amount of valuable posts he has made in his short time with locsa. Clearly it points to his passion for our little RussianRangeRovers. . . . I trust that he will have the time to attend to Locsa as Vice Chairperson/Moderator as objective and professionally as possible. Proof is readily available, just look back at all his posts. . . . All 2900 of them. I agree with this. I think Charles would be great at this as he is clearly a man who has the knowledge and the know-how. Maddy
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Post by ronnie on Feb 4, 2012 13:39:33 GMT 2
Hi Jan
I think it is better for someone who is local to have these positions. I will be very far away (like you), so would never be able to take part in any activities. There are many members who would be more than suitable for the positions. Charles also springs to mind as being very able and dedicated to the NIVA and LOCSA.
Ronnie
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Post by marius on Feb 4, 2012 15:18:20 GMT 2
Nice to see the nominations coming in As there are basically two vacancies available you are free to nominate more than one member. Marius
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Post by Hercules on Feb 5, 2012 9:35:02 GMT 2
Hallo Marius.
My nominates are as follows;
Vice-Chairperson - Charles
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Moderator - Spikes
Regards.
Hercules
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Post by vincentc on Feb 5, 2012 11:15:12 GMT 2
Hi
I second Hercules.
Charles and Spikes.
Regards Vincent
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Post by RATEL on Feb 5, 2012 11:38:26 GMT 2
Sorry, I missed the part of there being two positions available. I vote for Spikes as moderator
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Post by Charles on Feb 5, 2012 15:03:43 GMT 2
I second Spikes as mod.
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Post by danie on Feb 5, 2012 19:43:42 GMT 2
Hi All
As far as I know, the current Locsa Management Structure still exists.
To my knowledge and experience, a Vice Chairman always gets appointed by an appointed Management Structure - and not by members who appoints a Management Structure by means of an election.
Regards
Danie
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Post by marius on Feb 5, 2012 22:09:26 GMT 2
Hi Danie and all
If we should work on that principle then the Moderator should then be appointed either by me or Kobus. I would rather try and do this on more democratic principles and that includes the appointment of the Vice-Chairperson. Please note that the appointment of the Vice Chairperson (and perhaps even the Moderator) is only valid until August when a new Management Structure will be elected.
Hope that finds favour with everyone? Marius
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Post by danie on Feb 6, 2012 6:08:02 GMT 2
Hi Marius
Normally all clubs or "groups" - like Locsa, do have a Contribution which actually determines how elections of new management members get elected. I was not sure whether the current Locsa Management has already set up a Constitution as a group - which I thought would be the correct thing to do.
If there is no Constitution yet, I would suggest that Management do implement a Constitution (as a group) as soon as possible.
@ Nikki
Many thanks for accepting your nomination. I am well aware of the fact that you have been involved at several management structures during your lifetime, and to my mind it would be an absolute honor to see your involvement at the Locsa structures as well.
To anyone who does not know yet - Nikki is a dedicated Lada owner who clearly does whatever it takes to keep her lada going. I have been in contact with her during the past four years, and to my mind she has played a major role in showing everyone how things get done to keep a Lada going .
Regards
Danie
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Post by spikes on Feb 6, 2012 6:18:15 GMT 2
Hi Marius Seeing that I have been nominated and duly seconded for "moderator", I accept the nomination and will abide to majority vote as on 17/2/2012. I am NOT available for Vice Chairman. I cast my vote for VC for Charles regards Spikes
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Post by danie on Feb 6, 2012 6:48:01 GMT 2
Hi Marius
I assume a Poll will be set up to cast our votes ?
To my mind casing votes in public (for everyone to see who votes for who) is not the way to go.
Regards
Danie
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Post by marius on Feb 6, 2012 7:37:42 GMT 2
We need someone that can fill either or at least one of these portfolios as Moderator and Vice-Chairperson. Please note that as Moderator you will need to log on at a regular basis to perform the required admin duties. In line with democratic principles I propose that any member that has logged onto the forum can either nominate or second a candidate for either or both these positions. Nominations will start on 3 February 2012 and will close on Friday 17 February 2012. If by consensus this closing date can be forwarded. The member(s) who has received the most nominations (seconded) will automatically qualify as the most suitable candidate for a particular portfolio. If there is no clear majority it will go down to a vote if necessary.Please make sure that the person(s) you nominate is willing and able. I stand by my earlier proposal. If anyone else has a problem with the current process please let me know a.s.a.p. Currently LOCSA does not have a Constitution, but Management has come to the conclusion that at the end of a two year term elections will be held for a new Management Team. Any member of Management may not serve in the same position for longer than three years. In the light of Ronnie's recent resignation two positions became vacant and needs to be filled until new elections are held. As Chairperson I thought it appropriate that that these positions be filled in an open and democratic way. Marius
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Post by RATEL on Feb 6, 2012 8:23:47 GMT 2
I agree with Marius, this is the most democratic way of doing it. Or are we going the route of a certain government type election which we are all so very fond of. . . Besides, personally I don't think that it is necessary to be so formal with a club/group like this, there should be a certain level of formalities yes but keep it cool man. People easily leave the club if they get pissed off (as we have seen before). It helps sweet bit boggarol if we have all these management structures in place and try to be formal with absolutely no members. Majority of us guys here just want to enjoy their Nivas, have assistance available when needed and do not want to prove anything. That includes me. . . ;D Ontspan die boude . . . (Jan, verstaan jy my afrikaans hier ;D )
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Post by ladanivabelgium on Feb 6, 2012 8:40:00 GMT 2
haha, no prob
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Post by Charles on Feb 6, 2012 10:09:16 GMT 2
I accept my nominations as VC.
Charles
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Post by danie on Feb 6, 2012 19:20:37 GMT 2
Don't worry - "die boude is heeltemaal ontspan"in this part of KZN. ;D
My comments regarding a constitution has got absolutely nothing to do with a "certain type of governing style" from my part - in fact, to my experience a constitution always prevent a certain type of governing style - which might cause problems in future .
Although it is clear that things are well on track at the moment, I still believe that it is in the best interest of Locsa that a proper constitution should be considered in future - one never knows....
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Post by ladanivabelgium on Feb 6, 2012 21:55:47 GMT 2
is there not a vacant portfolio for a booze supplier with access to the club bank account?
in that case: I put myself candidate (aheum, as the one and only candidate, mind you) ;D
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Post by ladanivabelgium on Feb 6, 2012 21:58:56 GMT 2
i thought this thoroughly through and my final nominations are as follows:
VC: Charles Moderator: spikes
booze supplier: ladanivabelgium ;D
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Post by marius on Feb 6, 2012 22:47:51 GMT 2
booze supplier: ladanivabelgium ;D Nomination excepted! ;D Marius
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Post by RATEL on Feb 7, 2012 7:32:41 GMT 2
I nominate Jan as well for Booze supplier. . . . Definitely yes!
ppssssttt Jan, can I pm you my party list? Don't tell anyone . . . ;D
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Post by Ari Bezuidenhout on Feb 7, 2012 13:03:00 GMT 2
I'm happy with Charles, Spikes and Jan for the above mentioned positions
Ari
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