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Post by Charles on Nov 1, 2010 22:22:16 GMT 2
Hi all
Can anybody tell me what was included in the standard Niva toolkit?
In your opinion what is all the tools that you need to have in your Niva?
Charles
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Post by ronnie on Nov 2, 2010 8:12:23 GMT 2
Hi Charles
In answer to your first question, I dont remember much in the tool kits sold with the cars here. Your second question would depend on how well you have prepared the vehicle ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D.
Ronnie
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Post by Des on Nov 2, 2010 8:35:29 GMT 2
Hi Charles All one needs for a Niva is: 1x bobejaan spanner, 1x Free State micrometre(shifter) en 'n stuk blou draad, en siedaar 'n man het 'n boerdery! Seriously, find attached the "official" toolkit. Regards Des Attachments:
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Post by marius on Nov 2, 2010 9:15:06 GMT 2
Hi Charles The official toolkit Des posted was unfortunately not part of the deal in SA. Real pitty as it is quite a comprehensive toolkit. Appart from the jack we got a diluted version with some usefull tools. CMH also included a first aid kit. Regards Marius
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Post by marius on Nov 2, 2010 9:30:36 GMT 2
What tools to carry?
I normally carry very basic tools - they include the above toolkit and; Hammer, pliers, longnose pliers, screwdrivers (flat/star), shifting spanner, feeler gauge, puncture repair kit, fuel filter, carb cleaner, Q20, fuses,spark plugs, plug spanner, fan belt, tow rope, tyre presure gauge and some duck tape and tie downs.
Spanners include 8-14mm, 17 and 19mm. Sockets include 7-19mm and 24mm and one that fits on the steering box oil plug.
It would be usefull to carry the repair manual as well.
The above is for everyday use.
Regards Marius
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Post by ronnie on Nov 2, 2010 9:49:52 GMT 2
Hi Marius
What you carry is all I ever caried into the bush for extended stays ;D You are missing a HAMMER.
Ronnie
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Post by Charles on Nov 2, 2010 10:00:18 GMT 2
Thank you guys. I have all the tools I could need in my toolbox at work but I want to put together a smaller toolkit to keep in the Lada. I want everything in it that I would need, but nothing that I dont really need.
Charles
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Post by marius on Nov 2, 2010 10:45:56 GMT 2
Hi Ronnie
I would carry a bit more if I go into the bush - that would include small bottles of ant-freeze, GB and diff oil, engine oil, grease and brake fluid; funnel, hose clamps, light bulbs, spare keys, spade, files, hacksaw, wire and a longish piece of square wood and a piece of flat wood for recovery and some more.
I will always carry a HAMMER ;D
PS - NO high-lift jack ;D
Regards Marius
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Post by ronnie on Nov 2, 2010 13:06:46 GMT 2
Hi Marius
I carried filters and engine oil but nothing for the GB TC or Diffs. All breathers were extended high so chance of contamination was remote. It depends what faith you have in your Lada or at that time Landy ;D. Never went without duplicate keys ;D
Ronnie
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Post by ronnie on Nov 2, 2010 18:17:09 GMT 2
Hi Marius I should mention that a high lift jack is one of the most important pieces of equipment to take with you. It lifts, it allows you to move the Lada to the side and it winches. All for a few hundred Rand Ronnie
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Post by marius on Nov 2, 2010 18:40:54 GMT 2
Hi Ronnie A high-lift jack can be very usefull yes - but it is a bit awkward to carry in/on a Niva - just make sure you don't end up in a ditch ;D ;D OR travel with someone that has one Regards Marius
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Post by ronnie on Nov 2, 2010 21:19:53 GMT 2
Hi Marius
High lift jacks are awkward on any vehicle, but there are a various places to put them,eg on the bullbar, side of the roof rack, or on the rear bumper. I have seen a picture of a lada with it mounted behind the front seats on the vertical face in front of the fuel tank. It is probably more valuable than a winch as invariably there is nothing strong enough to attach the winch too, especially if you are traveling alone.
Ronnie
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Post by Hercules on Nov 3, 2010 19:44:22 GMT 2
Hi All. Don't forget a light or handheld spotlight for the trouble that hit during night time. A bit awkward to repair something feel feel. Also don't forget a tyre pump or a tin of Tyre Jack. It is a bit difficult to blow up a tyre by mouth. ;D Regards. Hercules
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Post by Ventzel on Nov 6, 2010 10:36:24 GMT 2
Hey guys,
You really scared me with all these tools. What does it mean - is your vehicles so troublesome that you don't have even a little peace of mind? Constant stress of breakdown? I carry only wheel spanner.
What about the standard Niva tool kit - it depends. The factory supplied:
1) For Niva 1600 - till 1996 year Full set of spanners 8-19, pliers, screwdrivers, allen keys, feeler gauge, tube spanner 8-10, wheel spanner, spark plug spanner, tyre pressure gauge, tyre repair kit, two crowbars different size, crank, big air pump, grease gun, camping/emergency electric lamp 12V/21W.
2) For Lada 1700 - after 1996 The black box on the photo above with one screwdriver, tube spanner 8-10 and wheel spanner. Sorry, the crissis began.
But you can see even on the latest model the small rubber strap on the left front fender where the air pump were situated. Pumps are no more standard car equipment but the their straps are still there??? Same story for the lamp - see the socket 12V under the bonnet below the windscreen corner LHS.
Rgds
Ventzel
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Post by Charles on Nov 6, 2010 11:38:55 GMT 2
Hi Ventz
I dont think its a case that the guys dont have faith in their vehicles its just we want to be prepared for anything. I want to put together a toolkit to keep in the lada permanently. What tools would you recomend i have in this kit?
Charles
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Post by ronnie on Nov 6, 2010 13:27:52 GMT 2
Hi Ventz
I agree with you, I used to spend 6 to 8 weeks in the bush every year and we traveled alone. I never carried much more than pliers, side cutters,screwdrivers, set of spanners, and a puncture repair kit, and 2 spare wheels. I trusted and maintained my vehicle, Lada then Landy and neither gave me a problem over a 10 year period. There should be no need to carry much in the way of tools. if you need to carry tools then you should not venture into the wild.
Ronnie
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Post by Charles on Nov 6, 2010 17:59:39 GMT 2
Do you think one should carry a socket set aswell?
Charles
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Post by ronnie on Nov 6, 2010 18:21:49 GMT 2
Hi Charles
I have never carried a socket set at any time. All I can suggest is to prepare the Lada properly which I am sure you will do. All these tools are totally unnecessary and are overkill. Ari`s Lada has been all over Botswana, Zimbabwe, and Namibia with only the tools I have said I take. The tools were never used and to this day all they were ever used for was to replace lamps.
Ronnie
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Post by marius on Nov 6, 2010 18:30:47 GMT 2
Shite happens ;D
You can ask Murphy
Again rather be safe than sorry - carry some basic tools esp if you're on your own.
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Post by ronnie on Nov 6, 2010 18:44:08 GMT 2
Hi Marius
I agree with your statments re tools, but unless you carry spares as well you need very few tools. I do not believe you require socket sets. A set of spanners is fine.
Ronnie
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Post by marius on Nov 6, 2010 18:52:07 GMT 2
Hi Ronnie
That is why I don't carry complete socket and spanner sets - just what I think I might need. I have not once had a mechanical brakedown but you should be prepared for those unwelcome things in life ;D
Regards Marius
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Post by Charles on Nov 6, 2010 19:21:02 GMT 2
Thank you guys. I only want to have the tools in the Lada I really need to. I have seen on Wegry's website lists of tools they say you need to take with you and it is more than I have in my toolbox at work. I think spanners, reversabile screw driver, pliers and hammer should almost be enough. Offcorse also some general spares, puncture repair kit. I always have my multi tool with me and I think one will almost be able to strip a whole Lada with it. ;D
Charles
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Post by Ventzel on Nov 6, 2010 21:00:03 GMT 2
Everyone is free to take tools as much as he thinks is necessary for his survival on the road - doesn't matter in civilization or in the wild. When I've been to Botswana with my Lada I took the entire my garage equipment with me despite the car was only 8-9 months old. Nobody knows the surprises of the future. And I needed some tools later when an angry elephant chase us closely and I had to force the car to its limit over the rocks, holes and logs to get out of there.
Ventz
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Post by Ari Bezuidenhout on Nov 6, 2010 21:31:35 GMT 2
Hi Ventz Being chased by an elephant, sounds fun, do you have any pictures of that. Ari
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Post by Charles on Nov 6, 2010 21:52:01 GMT 2
Ventz what lada do you currently drive? I dont think i have ever seen a photo of your car.
What is commen breakdowns on a Niva?
Charles
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Post by ronnie on Nov 7, 2010 9:17:14 GMT 2
Hi Ventz Botswana my favourite place to go. It has just got too expensive Ronnie
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Post by ronnie on Nov 7, 2010 9:19:07 GMT 2
Hi Charles Very little problems if you service them and drive responsibly Ronnie
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Post by Charles on Nov 7, 2010 11:57:52 GMT 2
Hi Ronnie
Then I should be ok. I am meticulous when I service a vehicle and I drive like a old lady.
Charles
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Post by danie on Nov 7, 2010 12:20:20 GMT 2
I am meticulous when I service a vehicle and I drive like a old lady. Charles Then you will have a long and happy relationship with your Lada. I also drive like an old lady, and am just very thankful that Ronnie has now found somebody else to tease about slow driving habits . Danie.........
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Post by Ari Bezuidenhout on Nov 7, 2010 12:34:01 GMT 2
Oh really Charles Drive like an old lady that is a tall story if I ever heard one. Ari
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